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Adobe Q4 FY25 Postmortem: Beat + Strong Outlook, Flat Open, Green Close

ADBEReport Date: 2025-12-10After Market Close
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Results

Model:✔ Correct
Outcome (Actual/Expected)
Beat / Inline
Guidance (Actual/Expected)
Strong / Weak
Predicted Move
-6.0% down
Confidence
60%
Earnings Gap
-0.4%
Session Return
+2.1%
Final crowd results:

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1. Setup Recap

Original prediction (ADBE, after the close): called for a downside gap (mid-single-digit risk) on the idea that the setup needed a “prove-it” quarter and a confident forward message to justify the AI-era multiple.

What the base case expected: a solid print, but guidance/tone that failed to reset the narrative, leaving room for a sell-the-news reaction.

Key evidence emphasis (from the preview framing): elevated expectations + valuation sensitivity, where forward visibility mattered as much as the quarter.

2. Results vs Expectations

Reported results vs consensus:

  • EPS beat consensus (adjusted EPS 5.50 vs 5.40 expected).
  • Revenue beat consensus (6.19B vs 6.11B expected).

Guidance and management tone:

  • Forward outlook landed better than the Street expected, with Q1 revenue guidance and full-year revenue guidance above expectations.
  • Tone read as confident around demand for AI-driven tools, but the tape still treated “AI monetization proof” as the main debate.

Qualitative surprises:

  • The numbers and outlook were not the problem; the market’s reaction looked more like positioning/expectations whiplash than a fundamentals miss.

3. Price Action & Scoreboard

Because this was after-the-close, the scoring window is: report-day close → next-day open/close.

  • Pre-earnings close: 343.13
  • Reaction-day open: 341.65
  • Reaction-day close: 350.43

Computed:

  • Earnings gap return: -0.00431 (down)
  • Session return: 0.02128 (up)

Scoreboard:

  • Opening gap direction vs prediction: matched (down, but small).
  • Full-session direction vs prediction: did not match (reversed to green by the close).
  • Meaningful reversal: yes — flat/down open turned into a solid up close.

4. Options, Flows & Example Structures

Options/vol:

  • I don’t have auditable post-print implied-vol/skew snapshots in the captured sources here, so I’m not going to guess the vol crush or skew moves.

Flows / positioning:

  • Not enough observable flow/short-interest updates in-scope to score cleanly.

Example structures:

  • The specific structures from the prediction aren’t available in the sources captured here, so I’m not going to “grade” particular spreads/condors.

5. Hindsight on Reasoning & Weights

  • Fundamentals/guidance: stronger than feared — the model’s “prove-it” anxiety was too heavy relative to what the company delivered.
  • Tape mechanics: the key miss was assuming a negative open would persist; instead, buyers stepped in and the close told the story.

Weight check:

  • Too much weight on valuation/expectations creating downside asymmetry; not enough weight on “clean beat + strong guide” being enough to stabilize the session.

6. Lessons & Playbook Updates

Ticker-specific:

  • For ADBE, a better-than-expected forward message can override a shaky open; the close matters more than the initial print.

Process tweak:

  • When the company delivers both a beat and an above-consensus outlook, treat “fade risk” as real: the open can be misleading.
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